This is an extract from a video of Alice Christensen (Mother Alice) and Swami Lakshmanjoo discussing the correct and incorrect rise and awakening of Kuṇḍalinī in Kashmir Shaivism.
Alice Christensen: Swamiji, there is so much discussion in the United States about Kundalini, and the power of Kundalini, can you give us some of your personal insight and experiences on this mysterious subject. You must know a lot about it, and we’d really like to hear a little of the truth of the matter.
Swami Lakshmanjoo: Actually, kuṇḍalinī which is discussed in Kashmir Shaivism, it is something new. And I have experience it that way.
Swamiji: It is new to the public these days.
Alice: To the public eye.
Swamiji: It is a new way of rise of kuṇḍalinī. And this is the real way of the rise of kuṇḍalinī. The kuṇḍalinī they have discussed, other people, other schools of thought, I see, and I feel, that this is discussed just through imagination. It is not the exact rise of kuṇḍalinī. The exact rise of kuṇḍalinī is what I will tell you now.
The kuṇḍalinī rises when there is one-pointedness. Till then it will never rise. When there is one-pointedness, uninterrupted one-pointedness must prevail for at least six hours or seven hours at one time. When that happens then the position of breath changes and it is balled. The breathing, that yogi’s function of breathing in and out, it stops, it is balled,1 and then after a few seconds, then that ball (balled breath) rushes down in the central vein in the spine.2
Alice: So the breath becomes a ball and pushes into the spine.
Swamiji: Yes. And then it touches the place of mulādhara cakra. And from there is rises in the form of super-sexual-joy.
Alice: Then that then is the basis of the super-sexual-joy that you mentioned. This kuṇḍalinī rise, sometimes it happens incorrectly and causes a great damage. Isn’t that true Swamiji?
Swamiji: Yes. That incorrect rise of kuṇḍalinī is called piśacāveśa.3 But that incorrect rise of kuṇḍalinī does not take place like that. It takes place when the breath is balled down and it rushes through the central vein and touches mulādhara cakra, and then it does not rise from mulādhara cakra then, i.e., if it is to rise in the incorrect way.
Then what happens next. After touching the mulādhara cakra it does not rise from mulādhara cakra. The yogi feels that it has appeared here in bhrumadhya cakra.4
Alice: You mean, he doesn’t feel any rise up the back, up to the forehead at all?
Alice: It just appears there?
Swamiji: It appears near the forehead.
Alice: But it isn’t really there.
Swamiji: It is there, and it rushes down. It doesn’t rise up, it goes down.
Alice: So the force in the spinal channel moves down, and catches there.
Swamiji: This is the incorrect way of the rise of kuṇḍalinī. And this incorrect rise of kuṇḍalinī is not recognised by yogis, Shaivite yogis.
Alice: Do you think that because of this influx of the word, and this idea of the kuṇḍalinī movements, and all that sort of thing, before the mass mind of the undisciplined public, that these problems are going to exist more and more?
Swamiji: The public who are not disciplined in the yamas and niyamas, that I talked to you about, then this incorrect rise of kuṇḍalinī takes place. Otherwise, it will never take place.
Alice: And the result of this incorrect rise, what is that result.
Swamiji: He will very rarely find [peace] . . . has to begin again from ABCD.
Alice: In other words, there is no spiritual awakening at all. He just thinks it’s a spiritual awakening.
Swamiji: No, it is not spiritual awakening.
Alice: And it is not correct.
So these people in the west who are going to the kuṇḍalinī groups, and saying, “All I want is my kuṇḍalinī to rise, all I want is that experience,” what they are getting is simply an incorrect experience.
Swamiji: An incorrect experience. And it is only imagination.
Alice: And it is all imagination.
Swamiji: Yes, yes.
1. “At this point, your breath becomes centralized and moves about one point, just like a whirlpool. The aspirant experiences that his breath is neither moving out nor coming in. He feels that his breath is moving round and round, that it is rotating at that one point which is the junction of the four passages.” Swami Lakshmanjoo, Kashmir Shaivism, The Secret Supreme, chapter 16, “The Seven States of Turya.”
2. “The gate of the central vein (madhyanāḍī) opens at once and your breath reaches down to that place called mūlādhāra.” Ibid.
3. This kind of formation of rise of kuṇḍalinī (it is not rise of kuṇḍalinī, it is fall of kuṇḍalinī), it takes place to those yogis who have not pleased their masters properly. And this kind of process of kuṇḍalinī is called piśācāveśa. It is the incorrect way of its rise. By this piścāca āveśa nothing can be achieved, not the eight powers. On the contrary, he will be the pray to all disturbances and obstacles in his future life. This is a very bad sign for a yogi. Conversations with Mother Alice (1980).
So this kind of rise of kuṇḍalinī must not take place at any cost. You must pray to your master not to handle this way.
4. This cakra is located in the space between the eyebrows.
This is an excerpt from a video interview with Swami Lakshmanjoo by
Alice Christensen – The American Yoga Association.
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